The Business of Learning, the Training Industry podcast, features interviews with experts on topics that help training professionals more effectively manage the business of learning.

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Episode 21: Adaptive Onboarding

Unlike traditional onboarding, which is often seen as an HR or administrative check-the-box task, adaptive onboarding is designed to meet the specific needs of individual employees. This personalized approach to onboarding can better engage, shape and retain new talent. In this episode of The Business of Learning, Melissa White, director of business operations at The Kool Source, and Nina Redding, senior learning resource consultant at Alberta Motor Association, weigh in.

Episode 20: Social Learning and Content Curation

One of the most well-known and popular models in L&D is 70-20-10. Recent research by Training Industry updated the model to the 55-25-20 model and reinforced the importance of social interactions and collaborations as a part of an employee’s learning experience. How can you balance the benefits of social learning with the need to have content appropriately vetted and curated? To answer this question, we spoke with Lauren Harris, CPTM, of the University of Colorado Boulder and Juliana Stancampiano of Oxygen Learning.

Episode 19: Evaluating Learning and Measuring ROI

Training Industry research has found that one of the biggest challenges facing learning leaders is measuring the effectiveness of their training. On this episode of The Business of Learning, Kevin M. Yates, a fact-finder for learning and development, discusses this challenge and his tips on evaluating learning and measuring return on investment (ROI).

Episode 18, Effective Safety Training: The Product of a Safety Culture and Strategic Alignment

Effective safety training requires a safety culture and alignment with business goals. In this episode of The Business of Learning, safety training experts Bridgette Wilder (City of Memphis) and Fred Stawitz share their tips on making safety training engaging, the role of training in risk management and mitigation, and emerging technologies such as VR/AR and artificial intelligence.

Episode 17: Career Pathways in Learning and Development

There are a variety of paths people take to enter and advance in the training profession. Whether L&D is their first job out of college, or whether they switch into a training role later in their career, the paths learning leaders take throughout their careers can offer insights for newer — and more experienced — professionals. Dr. Kristal Walker, CPTM, director of organizational development at Guitar Center, and Alycia Angle, senior talent management consultant at Ochsner Health System, share their career journeys so far, with takeaways for training professionals.

Episode 16: Best Practices for Internal Coaching Programs

Many companies bring in external coaching consultants, but internal coaching programs are a great way to introduce coaching to an organization’s culture and to support the practice within a company. Matt Becker, coaching and mentoring manager at CareSource, shares his experience and tips.

Special Episode: The Four Moments of Truth

In this episode of “The Business of Learning,” Dr. Sam Shriver, executive vice president of The Center for Leadership Studies, and Doug Harward, founder and CEO of Training Industry, discuss a new model for sustaining the impact of leadership training: the Four Moments of Truth.

Episode 15: Developing a Request for Proposals for Training Outsourcing Engagements

In this episode of “The Business of Learning,” Doug Harward, founder and CEO of Training Industry, discusses how to approach decisions about when to outsource and how to manage and develop requests for proposals (RFPs) for training products and services.

Episode 14: Merging Training Functions after an M&A

In the opener to season 2 of “The Business of Learning,” we talk to Scott Farley, group director of talent management at Komatsu, and Dave Fogleman, chief learning officer at SkillPath, about the process of managing change and merging training functions after an acquisition.

Episode 13: Training Industry Trends and Predictions

In the season 1 finale of “The Business of Learning,” we talk to industry leaders about training market trends in 2018 and predictions for 2019.

Episode 12: Developing a Learning Ecosystem for the Technical Workforce

Vidya Krishnan, global chief learning officer at Ericsson, shares her thoughts on training technical employees, the “soft skills versus technical skills” debate, and the need for continuous learning.

Episode 11: Distance Learning in Corporate Training

For National Distance Learning Week, Ken Conn (past president and chairman of the board, U.S. Distance Learning Association) and Melissa Loble (senior vice president of professional services and partnerships, Instructure) share their thoughts on distance learning, what the future of online training looks like, and what corporate L&D leaders can learn from K-12 and university education.

Episode 10: What Do Learners Want?

Amy DuVernet, CPTM, Ph.D., shares insights on what learners want, why we should care, and how to deliver engaging and effective training.

Episode Nine: The Executive Perspective on L&D

Tom Whelan, Ph.D., describes how executives see corporate training and shares strategies for L&D leaders to work with executives to develop and implement training strategy.

Episode #8: Working and Training in the Age of Automation

Larry Boyer, consultant, speaker and author of the new book “The Robot in the Next Cubicle: What You Need to Know to Adapt and Succeed in the Automation Age,” shares his thoughts on how automation and artificial intelligence are impacting work and training and tells us why he calls himself an optimistic realist.

Episode #7, Sales Enablement: Where Training Meets Strategy

Four experts share tips, tricks and insights on developing an effective sales enablement strategy that includes training.

Episode #6: The Learner Experience

Sam Herring and Dr. Tom Tonkin define the learner experience and share tips for creating a good one.

Episode #5: Creating an Engaged, Connected Organization

Michael Lee Stallard and Jay Morris share insights on employee wellness, satisfaction and engagement.

Episode #4: International Coaching Week

Just in time for International Coaching Week, we speak to a panel of experts about communication, feedback, technology and coaching.

Episode #3: Preconceptions of 70-20-10

Tom Whelan, Ph.D., director of corporate research, shares insights from a research report on revising the 70-20-10 model for the 21st-century learning organization.

Episode #2, The Gender Gap in Leadership Training: How Learning and Development Can Help Break the Glass Ceiling

Joanna Barsh, director emerita and senior advisor for McKinsey & Company, co-chair of the International Council on Women’s Business Leadership’s Leadership Working Group and president of the Centered Leadership Project, shares her model of leadership development, tips for L&D to support gender-balanced leadership, myths about women’s leadership development, and her own female leader heroes.

Episode #1: Training Manager Competency Model

Amy DuVernet, Ph.D., CPTM, director of training manager development, discusses the Training Manager Competency Model™, shares some of the competencies and provides tips for training managers to develop their skills.

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